Tomte: Ionsfu you expect too much of people. You'll save yourself a lot of grief if you assume people are:
•Shamelessly perverted.
•Foolishly happy.
•Entitled to pleasure.
•In the right because they fit into a crowd.
•Smiles at others only for their appeal.
You'll never feel betrayed or let down if you stop having high expectations. Maybe you have some of these traits too? You definitely feel you're in the right because you're ON the right. (Unexpected pun)
Eira: I can relate to this, but what do you mean by smiles at others for their appeal? That sounds kind of silly. I smile at everyone all the time, it's common courtesy. ^__^
Tomte: I mean, they're kind to others only in hopes of receiving a smile in return. Doesn't matter if the person has earned such praise, indiscriminately treating everyone with smiles can be bad. An extreme version of this is what people refer to as a whore, someone who tells people what they want to hear not what they need to hear.
The only thing that is appealing about such people is that they smile at you. Can you imagine such a person scowling at you, no talents, no wits just an aging body and a scowl.
What I was trying to tell Ionsfu is that if he assumes people have the traits listed he'll never be seduced into thinking he has found himself a nice person to chat to. The only way they're able to mess with your head is by not living up to your standards, or that's how I see it. Don't give them such an edge. Just assume they're bad and if they manage to prove you wrong, great.
lolis: I always envision humans as beings that can live outdoors if need be -to be able to survive off the land, start a fire without matches, build a shelter, fish, hunt, trap...etc.. When I see these depictions of soft humans, I shudder to think of how they would do on a camping trip or during a natural disaster. Those rainbow outfits won't help. Smiling won't help. Only applied skill will help. This is why young men should be sent to military academy.
Tomte: Yeah that's why I put "entitled to pleasure" in the list. Most people feel they have a right to feel good no matter how awful they are. So telling them anything that makes them feel bad is going to prompt them to call you names. Just assume people are entitled and you'll never be caught off guard when they freak out.
Tomte: If your ideas can't stand on their own without a crowd. Then they're probably no good. A good way to test if they are is to ask yourself. Would I believe this or be doing this if it weren't for all the people who are thinking or doing the same thing? You'll probably find that there are lots of things you do that is silly or in some cases awful. Doesn't mean that fitting in makes it impossible for you to be good, but to argue that because I fit in therefore I'm good. That's no good.
Eira: Yeah sometimes I wonder if all the people who wear diapers and dress up as cats would be doing it if they wouldn't be able to find others on the internet doing it. I mean if they were alone it would make no sense for them to do it idk?
Tomte: That's right, patterns of behavior they only choose to participate in because they've found others who do it too. Some of these behaviors you rightly point out are of a perverse nature. Perverse meaning contrary to what's expected or healthy. Shamelessly perverted doesn't exclusively refer to sexual deviants but also people who openly promote perverted ideas such as hip hop, third world culture etc. Assume people have an indifferent attitude towards these things and you'll not be disgusted when they use ghetto slang or start shitting their pants.
Eira: But why does it even matter to you, they're not hurting anyone with their language or twerking. They're just having fun and it makes them happy. Maybe leave them alone?
Tomte: This list is just as much a reminder of what not to be as it is a list of what you can assume most people are. There are lots of people who are happy despite having every trait on this list. Look at Africa or the third world, disease, crime and filth yet very happy. Assume they're either too dumb to realize what their circumstances are like or fakes. A fake being someone who smiles at everything in hopes of someone smiling back at them. Most of those people are on anti depressants, seeing psychiatrists or they're sociopaths. So if a person smiles even though nothing is particularly amusing, assume they're retarded or whores.
Bandit: Lonsfu just seems like those kids who wish to be born in the 60s. He sounds more of a boomer than Tomte. But Tomte actually makes sense with things. Lonsfu just has the addiction of wanting attention by putting anger on others lmao
Ionsfu: Before saying anything about genetics lets just acknowledge that evolution doesn't take millions of years. If you were to kill everyone under 6 foot then the next generation of people would be genetically predisposed to being taller. also cutting of an extreme threshold would effect the traits for the whole breeding population because each generation mixes the genes from the previous generation. for example if you select against the phenotype for aggression to the extend that there is any genetic component of that variation, you will be selecting against the genotype that causes aggression. and because you are removing the most violent element you are culling the most violent genes out of the entire genepool in the breeding population. youre not jsut cutting off the most violent at the high end but because the genes re-shuffle each round, you will not only have fewer out right violent criminals, but you will reduce the number of 'violent genes' in the breeding population. changing the nature of everyone in the population and not the size of the criminal element.
Everything you guys have said has nothing to do with environment, aka "people act certain ways because they want to 'fit in' with a group" and everything to do with genetics. If that statement were true then that would be an endless cycle of everyone emulating a certain group, and that would mean there would have to be a common point of which that group originates from and all groups by default copy the original group. and we know that's not true. Places like africa are the way they are because of how genetically different they are from the rest of the world. africa is the most genetically diverse continent on earth with asia coming second due to its sheer size alone and many genetic populations settling from outside such as madagascan peoples, east and north africans, and white south africans, not to mention the bushmen are more genetically distant from bantus despite neither group coming from or interbreeding with an outside genetic population. so you cant say all africans act the same and therefore are the same because thats just ignorant. Europe and diaspora are they way they are because of their history as people living in an extremely cold area at the time and later going from hunter gathers to agricultural. people in colder environments are smarter than those in warmer environments because people had to actually use their brains to stay warm and find food or else they'd die. people who werent smart enought to survive in the extreme cold died and their genes didnt get passed on to the next generation. also people had to be even smarter to farm. farming involves knowing where and when to plant and harvest, which crops are good or bad, how much water plants need (etc). Not to mention europeans farmed in cold seasonal environments which involved even more intelligence. sub saharan africans never had the incentive to actually farm because they lived in all-year-round warm environments. this means lots of wildlife and plants to eat any where at any time.
After the fall of rome in 406, much of the knowledge was destroyed and the knowledge that wasnt destroyed was moved to constantinople and alexandria. Durring the dark ages from the 5th century to the 11th century and medival period from the 11th century to the 14th century Many crimes such as theft, rape, murder, arson, etc. were punished with torture or death. violent criminals were killed for over a period of about one thousand years which was more than enough time for a signifigant genetic change in behavior. eveutually, Byzantium fell in 1453 and the knowledge was moved to italy and this eventually led to the renaissance period from the 14th century to the 17th century and durring this time period there were many changes in economics such as the sale of titles eventually leading to the end of feudalism and to what we know as private property and the common market so that goods can be sold over county lines leading to colonialism and factories in europe. they werent steam powered factories as we know today but they were early mass production lines where youd have line of workers making things all day. this gave the incentive to mechanize and which lead to the industrial revolution. Another thing id like to point out is that durring this time up intil the 1800s the rich were having more children then the poor and they eventually replaced the poor. this isnt to say that there weren't any 'poor' people. they were just the descendants of rich people from the medieval and renaissance periods. all this lead to the industrial and agricultural revolutions because of the genetic population being predisposed to invention due to the mass genetic changes throughout european history.
None of this would have happened in africa because they didnt have the incentives for these mass genetic changes. Its not really some weird cult like thing to say 'europeans are the light unto civilization as we know it'. where is the lie just look at the data. this isnt some conclusion you have to stretch to see, it pops right out to you. all of this invention and early technology came from north west europe and radiated out into the world. its not just something that happened because of circumstance it was a genetic change in time. when people say 'lets just push these people with these genetics to the side that created the world as we know it' and expect the world to continue normally wihtout them, and these people take offense when anyone questions the idea that the modern world has nothing to do with the people who built it. when you do this you threaten to bring the world back to the dark ages, not that the technology would go away but the world becomes regimented, unfree, locked with guilds, and stagnating.
When asked what is the benefit of my ideas on the spot im thrown through a loop.I dont even know where to begin. Do you care about anything at all? do you care about free speech, being able to start a buisness, enforcement of private property, not letting people shit in the streets and wiping their own asses withtout toilet paper, schools that arent prisons, nice cops, cops and judges that follow the law, the most basic scientific research, universities, not having to deal with idenity politics, lower rates of diseas and not having things like coronavirus and ebola all the time, organ transplants, lower rates of crime, having companies and firms that deal with the business and facts on the ground and not having to death with endless racial quotas and affirmative action, not paying an equivalent of a second military budget for social services for federal and state aid for people that dont need it minus what they pay in taxes, not having all your cities turn into detroit, chicago, philadelphia, and st louis. not commuting 2 hours a day, constant micro conflicts of minorities playing their loud obnoxious music that gets worse every month in white spaces to assert dominance? Yes ideas matter but ideas come from people with genes who exist and interact with other people with genes in an environment built by said people with genes. I have nothing to prove. It's those otherwise that have to answer for the disaster of multi racialism.
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•Shamelessly perverted.
•Foolishly happy.
•Entitled to pleasure.
•In the right because they fit into a crowd.
•Smiles at others only for their appeal.
You'll never feel betrayed or let down if you stop having high expectations. Maybe you have some of these traits too? You definitely feel you're in the right because you're ON the right. (Unexpected pun)
The only thing that is appealing about such people is that they smile at you. Can you imagine such a person scowling at you, no talents, no wits just an aging body and a scowl.
What I was trying to tell Ionsfu is that if he assumes people have the traits listed he'll never be seduced into thinking he has found himself a nice person to chat to. The only way they're able to mess with your head is by not living up to your standards, or that's how I see it. Don't give them such an edge. Just assume they're bad and if they manage to prove you wrong, great.
Everything you guys have said has nothing to do with environment, aka "people act certain ways because they want to 'fit in' with a group" and everything to do with genetics. If that statement were true then that would be an endless cycle of everyone emulating a certain group, and that would mean there would have to be a common point of which that group originates from and all groups by default copy the original group. and we know that's not true. Places like africa are the way they are because of how genetically different they are from the rest of the world. africa is the most genetically diverse continent on earth with asia coming second due to its sheer size alone and many genetic populations settling from outside such as madagascan peoples, east and north africans, and white south africans, not to mention the bushmen are more genetically distant from bantus despite neither group coming from or interbreeding with an outside genetic population. so you cant say all africans act the same and therefore are the same because thats just ignorant. Europe and diaspora are they way they are because of their history as people living in an extremely cold area at the time and later going from hunter gathers to agricultural. people in colder environments are smarter than those in warmer environments because people had to actually use their brains to stay warm and find food or else they'd die. people who werent smart enought to survive in the extreme cold died and their genes didnt get passed on to the next generation. also people had to be even smarter to farm. farming involves knowing where and when to plant and harvest, which crops are good or bad, how much water plants need (etc). Not to mention europeans farmed in cold seasonal environments which involved even more intelligence. sub saharan africans never had the incentive to actually farm because they lived in all-year-round warm environments. this means lots of wildlife and plants to eat any where at any time.
After the fall of rome in 406, much of the knowledge was destroyed and the knowledge that wasnt destroyed was moved to constantinople and alexandria. Durring the dark ages from the 5th century to the 11th century and medival period from the 11th century to the 14th century Many crimes such as theft, rape, murder, arson, etc. were punished with torture or death. violent criminals were killed for over a period of about one thousand years which was more than enough time for a signifigant genetic change in behavior. eveutually, Byzantium fell in 1453 and the knowledge was moved to italy and this eventually led to the renaissance period from the 14th century to the 17th century and durring this time period there were many changes in economics such as the sale of titles eventually leading to the end of feudalism and to what we know as private property and the common market so that goods can be sold over county lines leading to colonialism and factories in europe. they werent steam powered factories as we know today but they were early mass production lines where youd have line of workers making things all day. this gave the incentive to mechanize and which lead to the industrial revolution. Another thing id like to point out is that durring this time up intil the 1800s the rich were having more children then the poor and they eventually replaced the poor. this isnt to say that there weren't any 'poor' people. they were just the descendants of rich people from the medieval and renaissance periods. all this lead to the industrial and agricultural revolutions because of the genetic population being predisposed to invention due to the mass genetic changes throughout european history.
None of this would have happened in africa because they didnt have the incentives for these mass genetic changes. Its not really some weird cult like thing to say 'europeans are the light unto civilization as we know it'. where is the lie just look at the data. this isnt some conclusion you have to stretch to see, it pops right out to you. all of this invention and early technology came from north west europe and radiated out into the world. its not just something that happened because of circumstance it was a genetic change in time. when people say 'lets just push these people with these genetics to the side that created the world as we know it' and expect the world to continue normally wihtout them, and these people take offense when anyone questions the idea that the modern world has nothing to do with the people who built it. when you do this you threaten to bring the world back to the dark ages, not that the technology would go away but the world becomes regimented, unfree, locked with guilds, and stagnating.
When asked what is the benefit of my ideas on the spot im thrown through a loop.I dont even know where to begin. Do you care about anything at all? do you care about free speech, being able to start a buisness, enforcement of private property, not letting people shit in the streets and wiping their own asses withtout toilet paper, schools that arent prisons, nice cops, cops and judges that follow the law, the most basic scientific research, universities, not having to deal with idenity politics, lower rates of diseas and not having things like coronavirus and ebola all the time, organ transplants, lower rates of crime, having companies and firms that deal with the business and facts on the ground and not having to death with endless racial quotas and affirmative action, not paying an equivalent of a second military budget for social services for federal and state aid for people that dont need it minus what they pay in taxes, not having all your cities turn into detroit, chicago, philadelphia, and st louis. not commuting 2 hours a day, constant micro conflicts of minorities playing their loud obnoxious music that gets worse every month in white spaces to assert dominance? Yes ideas matter but ideas come from people with genes who exist and interact with other people with genes in an environment built by said people with genes. I have nothing to prove. It's those otherwise that have to answer for the disaster of multi racialism.
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2017/03/15/first-worldism-part-5-the-european-revolution/
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2017/01/09/civilization-powered-by-the-west-threatened-by-the-rest/
https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/big-summary-post-on-the-hajnal-line/