Haugkall: Always assume there's more to a person than what he/she chooses to reveal. I'm sure pit has given you more than a few hints of what he is about. He has drawn over 1000 pictures of himself as a little girl and of penises. That means in a private setting he probably wears skirts, diapers and makeup while shoving stuff up his ass. Now I don't know why you would prefer such a man to most other men, he is clearly quite sick.
Also I think I confused heck with someone else, he might not be a muslim but trust is definitely a muslim as is whoever pit is in love with. I'm not going to go on a rant about muslims but let's just say they're usually not great people and that it's odd that you would prefer a muslim's company to most other men's company. Same deal with the tranny, why do you want the skype or discord of trannies and muslims when you could chat to decent guys? Could it be that decent guys don't want to chat to you, misery seeks company?
Haugkall: How did you come to that conclusion when I'm virtually kicking you in your pedophile balls while telling the little girl to find better company?
cntrct: yeah on the internet you pretend to protect little white girls from the evil moslems but as you said "Always assume there's more to a person than what he/she chooses to reveal", meaning you obviously hide the real reason why you care so much about them choosing kebabs over you and I'm certain it's not "b-b-b-because they deserve something better!!1"
Haugkall: cntrct obviously I don't care what people think of me or I wouldn't be writing half the things I'm writing. I don't care about any little girl I care about how I feel in regards to certain issues. It's a lot like charity, people send money to charity because they can't be bothered to actually be a nanny to billions of dumbasses. Here take this shirt or some money now I don't have to become depressed by thinking of you. I and a lot of people, usually men do the same thing online.
We know that right now:
•Some white girl is being pissed in the face by 6 black guys for being white, apparently it's sexy.
•Some muslim guy in the middle east is marrying a 9 year old.
•Some teenage girl is being gang raped or sexually harassed in Europe by muslims.
•A tranny prolapses his rectrum or cuts off his penis.
•Some guy or gal runs around in a diaper because kawaii!
•A lot of fat rich pedophiles groom little boys.
•The western world is under siege by groups of people we have reason to believe can't perform as well intellectually as westernes/east asians and they outnumber good people by a lot.
I could go on, all of this is out of my control, it's people being people. The least I can do is to when I notice a little girl is about to hook up with a mentally ill tranny or a pedophile or a muslim online is to warn them. You might not want to do that little girl, are there no better people you could be chatting to. Give us a hint you're able to distinguish between idiots and good people, some hope in these dark times. (racism not intended)
Anyway cntrct and all the other filth, do good people a favor and kick yourself in the balls, thank you.
cntrct: >obviously I don't care what people think of me or
unrelated to the topic since I never implied you did
> I don't care about any little girl I care about how I feel in regards to certain issues.
I see, so how DO you feel about certain issues involving white little girls? And did you ever ask yourself WHY you feel that way? Maybe it's not so "normal" nor a quality of a "good person" to care about individuals that have nothing to do with you and will continue to make their own imperfect choices no matter what Mr. Oh-So-Perfect-And-Totally-Not-Sick has to say or feels about that matter.
>something about charity
>a list of incidents
1. Include some sources or proofs they actually happened if you want anyone "intellectual" to get interested in it 2. once again that has nothing to do with what I wrote previously and no one in this comment section asked for any examples of what rustles your jimmies (besides you're just repeating what no one cared about the first 9000 times you mentioned it)
> it's people being people
exactly, so why not give up on trying to change them into becoming copies of yourself or slaves that will exist only to please your expectations of a perfect world?
>The least I can do is to ... is to warn them
no, the least anyone without an OCD can do is not to comment on every little thing (especially those that have nothing to do with you)
>are there no better people you could be chatting to
try not to see everything in black and white, only cause a person has a trait you personally despise doesn't mean they're are bad people altogether and don't forget that most humans have different definitions for good or bad, likeable or despicable and are very likely not to share your views on that matter.
>Give us a hint you're able to distinguish between idiots and good people
Are you implying that you are a good person? Most people won't see someone that tries to force their opinion on others, never has anything kind to say and only accuses people of being sick or dumb/incapable to make their own choices and is generally as intolerant as it gets as a "good" person. So the majority sees you as the only "idiot" that continuously fails to realize, that they don't care about your opinion or disagreement with their decisions.
Haugkall: "unrelated to the topic since I never implied you did "
You think I speak ill of pedophiles because they're competition, implying I care what little girls think of me. Look at me little girls, I'm better company than cntrct, false I do not care at all.
"I see, so how DO you feel about certain issues involving white little girls? And did you ever ask yourself WHY you feel that way? Maybe it's not so "normal" nor a quality of a "good person" to care about individuals that have nothing to do with you and will continue to make their own imperfect choices no matter what Mr. Oh-So-Perfect-And-Totally-Not-Sick has to say or feels about that matter."
I don't expect someone like you to ever understand why people care, that you have to ask me to explain why people care suggests you might be a sociopath or maybe you've convinced yourself children like being raped. Many of your drawings are of children being raped by tentacles and other stuff. Why would you draw that and more importantely save it if you didn't enjoy it, quite a sick person.
"exactly, so why not give up on trying to change them into becoming copies of yourself or slaves that will exist only to please your expectations of a perfect world? "
You think I'm trying to change you when I virtually kick you in the balls, it just makes me happy.
"try not to see everything in black and white, only cause a person has a trait you personally despise doesn't mean they're are bad people altogether and don't forget that most humans have different definitions for good or bad, likeable or despicable and are very likely not to share your views on that matter. "
I'm pretty sure it's universally acknowledged that men who run around in womens clothing and dream of cutting their penis off are mentally ill, definitely not the kind of person a child should be chatting to. It doesn't matter how nice or kind he is, would you say this is appropriate?
https://youtu.be/UKgxkNES4Zs?t=19
Oh look he is so kind and cool, what's your skype stephen oh sorry I mean, stephanie.
"Are you implying that you are a good person? Most people won't see someone that tries to force their opinion on others, never has anything kind to say and only accuses people of being sick or dumb/incapable to make their own choices and is generally as intolerant as it gets as a "good" person. So the majority sees you as the only "idiot" that continuously fails to realize, that they don't care about your opinion or disagreement with their decisions."
It's relative, I'm not perfect but I'm definitely gooder than you. I think it's important that a child learns to distinguish between a bad person and a good person quite early, especially women since it's they who eventually is going to decide on a future husband. I think you should ask yourself cntrct why you're so upset that I advice emberclaw against mingling with muslims, pedophiles and trannies. Relax she could still chat with you on skype right, oh wait...nevermind I see why you're upset. Maybe you've got a guilty conscience, that's good cntrct means you're not a fully fledged pedophile just yet. I'd start by erasing those disgustuing images you've saved to your gallery. I hope you get better for your own sake and for the children.
cntrct: >You think I speak ill of pedophiles because they're competition, implying...
No, I said i never implied that you care about what people think of you. I wouldn't be surprised if you wrote that statement IF i actually implied anything of that kind, but i didn't, so your statement about you not caring what people think about you came out of the blue. And that was precisely what wrote.
>Many of your drawings are of children being raped by tentacles and other stuff.
1. ad hominem 2. it's not "many" it's a single one, at least among those that are in my gallery.
>Why would you draw that and more importantely save it if you didn't enjoy it,
I'll show you a good example by actually answering your question, unlike you, that just concluded i wouldn't be able to understand why some people care more about strangers of certain age, gender and race than about other strangers: I draw them because I DO enjoy drawing them, I don't imagine myself nor any other existent or imaginable real human/animal being involved in what i draw though. As to why I enjoy it, idk, probably cause im bored with normal stuff and would feel like I'm wasting my time doing what 90% of the other artists do. Even if it had some other deeper reason - neither you and nor anyone else should worry about it as it doesn't harm anyone (existent). Most of us do certain things without fully understanding why we do them and even professionals won't be able to tell you with certainty the reasons behind certain ways of thinking or underlying intentions. Psychology is just a approximate science.
> when I virtually kick you in the balls, it just makes me happy.
well i don't feel kicked anywhere virtually or not, but sure continue to do so.
I didn't mean myself though, when i kept talking about people you're trying to change. I meant those poor bastards you were asking, why they want to contact/have relationship with some individual or group of people you disapprove of.
>men who run around in womens clothing and dream of cutting their penis off are mentally ill
Well it's arguable whether it's a mental illness, it's probably a mental disorder but even then as long as it doesn't harm anyone, live and let live. You will hardly find a single person that doesn't have at least symptoms of some kind of mental disorder, even you, as unimaginable as it seems to you, are not an exception and if we started another cleansing of anyone undesirable it wouldn't take long till it'd be your (or anyone's) turn to be eliminated. But yeah i guess a person like you, with such a high moral ground, is way more suitable than all of us imperfect human beings to decide who is protect-worthy and who's nothing more than walking flesh.
>would you say this is appropriate?
not appropriate cause the kids shouldn't be taught about things they can't possibly understand at that age yet - it'll just make them confused and that's not necessary. But it's not my place to worry about the future of those children anyway. They have parents and it's their responsibility to fill the minds of their offspring with norms and values they deem desirable and to protect their kids from (what they consider) negative influences. If parents fail to do so then our society is doomed anyway, and there's no point in worrying about something inevitable.
> I'm definitely gooder than you
well many people would agree, many wouldn't. Depends on how easy people think it is to judge a person as a whole and to determine their "value". But then again i think "smart" people would never try to do it in the first place (especially with people they pretty much can't know anything about nor are anyhow influenced by irl).
> to distinguish between a bad person and a good person
again - that's highly subjective even among individuals of same culture, race, interests, gender etc.
> why you're so upset that I advice emberclaw against mingling with muslims, pedophiles and trannies.
i'm not upset about that, i don't even know that person so i couldn't care less. If anything, i feel a bit sorry for pit for having to read your nasty comments on their cute drawings. But that's not even that important, i just wanted to make a funny remark on you and your obsession with "protecting" white little girls - as you can see from my first comment in this "thread".
> I hope you get better for your own sake and for the children.
Don't worry Mr. Racist-Goody-two-Shoe i don't care about real children in any sexual way, as i said many times already, but i will continue to draw that "disgusting" art of mine :^)
Haugkall: In your own words:
https://i.imgur.com/HalLKlG.png
"I draw them because I DO enjoy drawing them, probably cause im bored with normal stuff and would feel like I'm wasting my time doing what 90% of the other artists do. Even if it had some other deeper reason - neither you and nor anyone else should worry about it as it doesn't harm anyone (existent). I don't care about REAL children in any sexual way"
cntrct: m8 with "them" I meant fantasy characters that might resemble what we understand as kids in some ways. And that would've been obvious to anyone that read through the rest of my comment. But yeah you're right, I should've assumed that in your mind you are actually imagining real children when looking at drawings like that.
Haugkall: So you acknowledge your "fantasy characters" resemble kids. You like when kids smile, you want to share with them what you've come to know by stimulating your little pecker. You fantasize about shoving things up a cute little girl's butt, vagina and mouth simultaneously. But you realize that's just a fantasy, a child wouldn't smile when you do that to them, they would cry which is one of the reasons you feel your "fantasy characters" aren't children, they may look like children but a child would never like the things I put them through silly Haugkall!!
Yes my bad, these fantasy characters of yours are 18 they just look like cute children. It's an art style, definitely not a legal way for you to bypass the law which prohibits people from possessing child porn. I don't give a damn what you do in the privacy of your own home ctrct, but I do care about putting my mind at ease, I believe they call it venting. The internet is great for that. If I see any person I have reason to believe is innocent or at risk of being seduced by trannies, pedophiles, muslims or even the rapping kind I'll warn them, what you gonna do about it, call me racist, I don't care about your buzz words dumbass. Take comfort knowing that you're not alone, you'll have company in HELL!
cntrct: wow, all of the bullshit in your first passage is so insane considering it comes from a person that thinks he's normal lol, I don't even know what exactly to quote cause it's basically just a made up fanfiction of what you think someone drawing animu lolis would think, and yeah it's so horribly wrong and exaggerated. Probably it's not even what you imagine "us" (loli artists) to be like, but the kind of thoughts you have or had at some point, cause it's really hard to believe anyone could just randomly come up with that.
> It's an art style
yes
>definitely not a legal way for you to bypass the law which prohibits people from possessing child porn
not for "me" since I'm not interested in that, but if my art is used by Someone to release built up tension instead of Someone looking up real kids or even worse - interacting with them with ill intentions then, yeah sure, I think I'm doing more good for society than any of you intolerant conceited sickos that want to take away human rights from all those with a certain trait you consider dangerous or "wrong".
> If I see any person I have reason to believe is innocent or at risk of being seduced by trannies, pedophiles, muslims or even the rapping kind I'll warn them
i can only imagine how the algorithm in your head works, that decides which person is "innocent" and which isn't. It's surely not related to gender, age or race/skincolor.
>you'll have company in HELL!
yes I'll have company in a fictional place. I hope they'll be 2d succubus lolis.
Haugkall: "I can only imagine how the algorithm in your head works, that decides which person is "innocent" and which isn't. It's surely not related to gender, age or race/skincolor."
You've still not figured out how to distinguish between an innocent person and someone like yourself, enjoy.
RACE
It's a misconception that people are born identical in regards to being able to perform as well at intellectual or physical tasks. History covers genetics, when Europe and Asia wrote epic litterature, created amazing art and architecture Africans lived in mud huts. It might be worthy to note that it takes about 50 generations for a pack of wild foxes to start acting like dogs when bred in captivity.
"The fact that in fifty generations, they were wagging their tails and barking, this is really incredible."
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160912-a-soviet-scientist-created-the-only-tame-foxes-in-the-world
They tried to illiminate defensive reactions to humans in the foxes, that's a trait that was artifically selected for. Not necessarily something foxes naturally are attracted to, they would probably prefer an aggressive wild fox to a docile peaceful fox. If we assume behavioural changes can happen as quickly to humans, about a 1000 years for a human to turn from a wild human into a domesticated human who barks then it's no longer a mystery why certain isolated groups of people behave differently to others.
Take for example the black man, for thousands of years the sahara desert cut him off from other groups of people. When harsh weather forced europeans and asians to build cold proof houses and prepare for winter by spending most of the year tending to crops. The black man just had to run after an animal and a hut made of straw and mud was all the protection he needed from the scorching sun. Hunting also didn't allow him to do much else, while farmers were able to spend a significant portion of the year developing culture. People also figured out farming is much easier if you live in larger communities, towns. The towns started to trade with each other, professions started to develop.
Africans lived in small tribes, I don't even think they developed strong families, the tribe raised the child. That might be why it's quite popular for modern blacks to join gangs and not stay home around the dinner table with mommy and daddy. Certain traits that we value in modern society weren't selected for. Same with the middle easternes, another large group of people with undesirable traits. About 3000 years ago in ancient Babylon they were a great people, but they fell from grace and then someone invented Islam and they started to marry their cousins and the rest is history.
Genetics is just one factor in determining what a person is like, you can't dismiss a person just on their genetics, especially not today when so many people are of mixed heritage. But in the context of innocence you could probably say that it wouldn't be as important to warn a little muslim child of talking to achmed over skype as it would be to warn a little white or asian child. I'll go as far as to say that it's probably not a great idea for it to become the norm in western society for people to have tons of babies with blacks and muslims. Call it whatever you want, I prefer to refer to it as evolution and not racism.
GENDER
Gender matters a lot, the female body is designed to give birth to babies. In order to do that she needs to choose a man therefore she should be encouraged to obsess over men, good men. A whore or a woman who chooses to give up on her responsabilities as a woman are generally not very attractive that is why she resorts to being a whore in the first place, or she just gives up and starts hating men. But even a whore as unattractive as she tends to be is still trying to perform her function as a woman.
Now the male equivalent to a whore is much worse. Men can't give birth to babies, so they tend to have an obsession, a need to create things. Intelligent men who aren't given means by which they can create things tend to be easily distracted by escapism, they want to escape the miserable conditions that won't allow them to express themselves creatively. The escapism usually takes the form of some kind of game and if he wins at the game he feels better about himself despite not fulfilling his duties as a man. An alternative to games are drugs, get high or drunk and put the person who keeps on telling you that you're a loser to sleep. Out of the two games are definitely preferable, because games especially in a modern context can teach us something about ourselves.
They can have storylines or make us become better at problem solving. Escapism that celebrates virtue or presents to us a great vision of the world or an archetype isn't time wasted, that's art. Great artists rise out of miserable enviroments to inspire people, the great tragedy is when society is so messed up that it fails to appreciate the ideals by which a society can flourish, the archetypes are very important. Instead a lot of people obsess over rap lyrics and manga, which is sad. Four hundred years ago when inspired men commissioned artists to create statues or depictions of scenes from the bible, that presented society with a nice vision of what we might become. We would never have seen those great masterpieces if the talented artists had to slave under the mob. It's impossible to ignore the fact that most great artists and authors were and are men. Women, men's urge to create is comparable to your urge to make babies and care for them. Don't be surprised if they beat you at it and don't waste your time trying to reverse things or "make things equal".
That is why modern feminism is bad, the new star wars movies for example. Stop trying to convince people women can kick ass and boss men around, I suppose you can boss weak minded men around but to present it as some kind of ideal is dumb. It gives young girls false expectations and it's not inspiring to young men who needs the escapism more than you do. The Quentin Tarantino movies are horrible, as is most of the crap you people obsess about. Also to elaborate a bit on race. It's cruel to try to force blacks or other groups of people to perform as well at whatever, just because you need to present yourself as a nice non racist. Let things play out, stop trying to micro manage society from above, if changes are meant to happen they'll have to happen from bottom up. No need to write legislation to enforce "equality", at the expense of the quality of your employees.
Now the most despicable man is the pervert, he isn't playing some game or dreaming of getting an opportunity to create something of value. He is basically weaving his fantasies and energy into his orgasms, all his creative energy is spent on trying to imagine scenarios in which he can dominate the women who prevent him from expressing himself creatively. It's not a game to be won, it's not healthy escapsim, it's a drug. An addiction that can take many forms, usually he obsesses about things of which he is deprived. Now a small dose of this drug is not something to shame a man for but when it becomes an obsession and he gives up on all his responsabilities as a man, then he becomes far worse than the worst female whore. I suppose you could compare a male pervert of the worst degree to a female who hates great men for being great or "privilaged".
While all kinks to an extent are bad, there are some that are worse than others. Pedophilia, an attraction to children is definitely the worst, it's hard to imagine a man that's worse than a pedophile. Then we've got the sadist or the masochist, men who likes to whip people or be whipped or dominated or whatever. This is bad because it's possible for people to get hurt under such conditions. Other perversions as unappealing as they might be are not as bad, do whatever you want as long as it's not in public or an obsession. It's evident from all these facts that it's more important to warn women of bad men of which there are many, but yes even a young boy should refrain from talking to Achmed or some tranny. The man hating witches don't seem to be as common as the perverted men.
Children are more open to being manipulated or confused by sick people. You'll find few adult women who would want to hook up with a muslim or a tranny on skype, but the naive little girl don't know better. Which is why it's important to warn them. You're clearly attracted to very young looking girls cntrct and it seems to me that it's a bit of an obsession, you either lack the brains or the means by which to create something of value, now instead of whining about it and call me a racist or a pedophobe erase the nasty drawings from your gallery and try better yourself. Also Pit, you've drawn over a thousand pictures of yourself as a girl. You're gay so you can't really help it but jeez, get a better hobby and lastly emberclaw, try find a nicer boy to chat to.
lolis: I always thought one of the greatest things about art is that it could be whatever you can dream of. And the types of dreams a person has isn't an indicator of what that person acts upon in reality. They are just that.....dreams....a way for the brain to improvise on its own while your conscious mind rests...often randomly juxtaposing unrelated events into one another in nonsensical ways. I enjoy Jamila's CSLA cartoons for this very reason.
So whatever form of art is made, it can exist just on that basis alone...as art....not necessarily serving a purpose...not representing any particular belief or ANYTHING....just the arrangement of pixels on a screen...That's all.
I sometimes draw objects that I know will attract interaction...like toilets...because I know people will draw poop in the bowl or do something to actively interact with it....which I usually like to see/watch. Sure, it's a cheap and obvious trick...but so what? I'm bored at work and I'll take a cheap laugh anytime.
That is one of the attractive aspects to this public drawing realm...to see how people will react in real-time.
Some artists will spend hours and hours working out a realistic figure and no one will ever interact with them...but this IS a public drawing room so it strikes me as ironic that someone would come to a public room to draw with other people and yet exclude themselves from those very people at the same time. Like cats...They act like they want you to pet them and when you pet them they scratch the fuck out of your hand! Public drawing room...but stay away and don't bug me?! -doesn't make sense!
Haug, you kinda exclude yourself to private rooms and yet you seem to want to interact with others at the same time -like in here...but not so much to draw...more to preach...And I think you know that what you say will elicit responses in much the same way that drawing a toilet does for me....Basically we're all doing the same thing to each other....but different styles....be it drawing naked elf-children (AKA "lolies")...toilets....renaissance statues or preaching on a soapbox in here....whatever. The diversity is what makes it fun.
Haugkall: It's depressing but fear not because people are going to stick to their ways no matter what some authoritarian says. You might be able to force lions and tigers to share the same enclosure but they'll stick to their own, we see it in Europe and in the US, we see it on Flockmod. As long as smart people prefer the company of smart people and as long as non perverts on flockmod prefer the company of non perverts, civilization and beauty will persevere.
Segregation is beautiful, borders are beautiful, rooms with good moderation are beautiful. Your naive faith in the absolute equality of individuals is going to be your own undoing. The only way for you to extinguish the great fiery flame that resides within every great man and woman is to kill them, but even if your rapping hordes manage to do that our ideas are going to live on in our art. And we'll die knowing that you're going to be condemned to live a life without good company, misery loves company, what you gonna do when everyone's like you, fucker.
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dude, calm the fuck down.
1. pit isnt really a creep to me
2. dude my ex is a muslim
3. whats the issue with trust??
Also I think I confused heck with someone else, he might not be a muslim but trust is definitely a muslim as is whoever pit is in love with. I'm not going to go on a rant about muslims but let's just say they're usually not great people and that it's odd that you would prefer a muslim's company to most other men's company. Same deal with the tranny, why do you want the skype or discord of trannies and muslims when you could chat to decent guys? Could it be that decent guys don't want to chat to you, misery seeks company?
tomte's obsession with white little girls finally explained :^)
what a good day to be alive
We know that right now:
•Some white girl is being pissed in the face by 6 black guys for being white, apparently it's sexy.
•Some muslim guy in the middle east is marrying a 9 year old.
•Some teenage girl is being gang raped or sexually harassed in Europe by muslims.
•A tranny prolapses his rectrum or cuts off his penis.
•Some guy or gal runs around in a diaper because kawaii!
•A lot of fat rich pedophiles groom little boys.
•The western world is under siege by groups of people we have reason to believe can't perform as well intellectually as westernes/east asians and they outnumber good people by a lot.
I could go on, all of this is out of my control, it's people being people. The least I can do is to when I notice a little girl is about to hook up with a mentally ill tranny or a pedophile or a muslim online is to warn them. You might not want to do that little girl, are there no better people you could be chatting to. Give us a hint you're able to distinguish between idiots and good people, some hope in these dark times. (racism not intended)
Anyway cntrct and all the other filth, do good people a favor and kick yourself in the balls, thank you.
unrelated to the topic since I never implied you did
> I don't care about any little girl I care about how I feel in regards to certain issues.
I see, so how DO you feel about certain issues involving white little girls? And did you ever ask yourself WHY you feel that way? Maybe it's not so "normal" nor a quality of a "good person" to care about individuals that have nothing to do with you and will continue to make their own imperfect choices no matter what Mr. Oh-So-Perfect-And-Totally-Not-Sick has to say or feels about that matter.
>something about charity
>a list of incidents
1. Include some sources or proofs they actually happened if you want anyone "intellectual" to get interested in it 2. once again that has nothing to do with what I wrote previously and no one in this comment section asked for any examples of what rustles your jimmies (besides you're just repeating what no one cared about the first 9000 times you mentioned it)
> it's people being people
exactly, so why not give up on trying to change them into becoming copies of yourself or slaves that will exist only to please your expectations of a perfect world?
>The least I can do is to ... is to warn them
no, the least anyone without an OCD can do is not to comment on every little thing (especially those that have nothing to do with you)
>are there no better people you could be chatting to
try not to see everything in black and white, only cause a person has a trait you personally despise doesn't mean they're are bad people altogether and don't forget that most humans have different definitions for good or bad, likeable or despicable and are very likely not to share your views on that matter.
>Give us a hint you're able to distinguish between idiots and good people
Are you implying that you are a good person? Most people won't see someone that tries to force their opinion on others, never has anything kind to say and only accuses people of being sick or dumb/incapable to make their own choices and is generally as intolerant as it gets as a "good" person. So the majority sees you as the only "idiot" that continuously fails to realize, that they don't care about your opinion or disagreement with their decisions.
You think I speak ill of pedophiles because they're competition, implying I care what little girls think of me. Look at me little girls, I'm better company than cntrct, false I do not care at all.
"I see, so how DO you feel about certain issues involving white little girls? And did you ever ask yourself WHY you feel that way? Maybe it's not so "normal" nor a quality of a "good person" to care about individuals that have nothing to do with you and will continue to make their own imperfect choices no matter what Mr. Oh-So-Perfect-And-Totally-Not-Sick has to say or feels about that matter."
I don't expect someone like you to ever understand why people care, that you have to ask me to explain why people care suggests you might be a sociopath or maybe you've convinced yourself children like being raped. Many of your drawings are of children being raped by tentacles and other stuff. Why would you draw that and more importantely save it if you didn't enjoy it, quite a sick person.
"exactly, so why not give up on trying to change them into becoming copies of yourself or slaves that will exist only to please your expectations of a perfect world? "
You think I'm trying to change you when I virtually kick you in the balls, it just makes me happy.
"try not to see everything in black and white, only cause a person has a trait you personally despise doesn't mean they're are bad people altogether and don't forget that most humans have different definitions for good or bad, likeable or despicable and are very likely not to share your views on that matter. "
I'm pretty sure it's universally acknowledged that men who run around in womens clothing and dream of cutting their penis off are mentally ill, definitely not the kind of person a child should be chatting to. It doesn't matter how nice or kind he is, would you say this is appropriate?
https://youtu.be/UKgxkNES4Zs?t=19
Oh look he is so kind and cool, what's your skype stephen oh sorry I mean, stephanie.
"Are you implying that you are a good person? Most people won't see someone that tries to force their opinion on others, never has anything kind to say and only accuses people of being sick or dumb/incapable to make their own choices and is generally as intolerant as it gets as a "good" person. So the majority sees you as the only "idiot" that continuously fails to realize, that they don't care about your opinion or disagreement with their decisions."
It's relative, I'm not perfect but I'm definitely gooder than you. I think it's important that a child learns to distinguish between a bad person and a good person quite early, especially women since it's they who eventually is going to decide on a future husband. I think you should ask yourself cntrct why you're so upset that I advice emberclaw against mingling with muslims, pedophiles and trannies. Relax she could still chat with you on skype right, oh wait...nevermind I see why you're upset. Maybe you've got a guilty conscience, that's good cntrct means you're not a fully fledged pedophile just yet. I'd start by erasing those disgustuing images you've saved to your gallery. I hope you get better for your own sake and for the children.
No, I said i never implied that you care about what people think of you. I wouldn't be surprised if you wrote that statement IF i actually implied anything of that kind, but i didn't, so your statement about you not caring what people think about you came out of the blue. And that was precisely what wrote.
>Many of your drawings are of children being raped by tentacles and other stuff.
1. ad hominem 2. it's not "many" it's a single one, at least among those that are in my gallery.
>Why would you draw that and more importantely save it if you didn't enjoy it,
I'll show you a good example by actually answering your question, unlike you, that just concluded i wouldn't be able to understand why some people care more about strangers of certain age, gender and race than about other strangers: I draw them because I DO enjoy drawing them, I don't imagine myself nor any other existent or imaginable real human/animal being involved in what i draw though. As to why I enjoy it, idk, probably cause im bored with normal stuff and would feel like I'm wasting my time doing what 90% of the other artists do. Even if it had some other deeper reason - neither you and nor anyone else should worry about it as it doesn't harm anyone (existent). Most of us do certain things without fully understanding why we do them and even professionals won't be able to tell you with certainty the reasons behind certain ways of thinking or underlying intentions. Psychology is just a approximate science.
> when I virtually kick you in the balls, it just makes me happy.
well i don't feel kicked anywhere virtually or not, but sure continue to do so.
I didn't mean myself though, when i kept talking about people you're trying to change. I meant those poor bastards you were asking, why they want to contact/have relationship with some individual or group of people you disapprove of.
>men who run around in womens clothing and dream of cutting their penis off are mentally ill
Well it's arguable whether it's a mental illness, it's probably a mental disorder but even then as long as it doesn't harm anyone, live and let live. You will hardly find a single person that doesn't have at least symptoms of some kind of mental disorder, even you, as unimaginable as it seems to you, are not an exception and if we started another cleansing of anyone undesirable it wouldn't take long till it'd be your (or anyone's) turn to be eliminated. But yeah i guess a person like you, with such a high moral ground, is way more suitable than all of us imperfect human beings to decide who is protect-worthy and who's nothing more than walking flesh.
>would you say this is appropriate?
not appropriate cause the kids shouldn't be taught about things they can't possibly understand at that age yet - it'll just make them confused and that's not necessary. But it's not my place to worry about the future of those children anyway. They have parents and it's their responsibility to fill the minds of their offspring with norms and values they deem desirable and to protect their kids from (what they consider) negative influences. If parents fail to do so then our society is doomed anyway, and there's no point in worrying about something inevitable.
> I'm definitely gooder than you
well many people would agree, many wouldn't. Depends on how easy people think it is to judge a person as a whole and to determine their "value". But then again i think "smart" people would never try to do it in the first place (especially with people they pretty much can't know anything about nor are anyhow influenced by irl).
> to distinguish between a bad person and a good person
again - that's highly subjective even among individuals of same culture, race, interests, gender etc.
> why you're so upset that I advice emberclaw against mingling with muslims, pedophiles and trannies.
i'm not upset about that, i don't even know that person so i couldn't care less. If anything, i feel a bit sorry for pit for having to read your nasty comments on their cute drawings. But that's not even that important, i just wanted to make a funny remark on you and your obsession with "protecting" white little girls - as you can see from my first comment in this "thread".
> I hope you get better for your own sake and for the children.
Don't worry Mr. Racist-Goody-two-Shoe i don't care about real children in any sexual way, as i said many times already, but i will continue to draw that "disgusting" art of mine :^)
https://i.imgur.com/HalLKlG.png
"I draw them because I DO enjoy drawing them, probably cause im bored with normal stuff and would feel like I'm wasting my time doing what 90% of the other artists do. Even if it had some other deeper reason - neither you and nor anyone else should worry about it as it doesn't harm anyone (existent). I don't care about REAL children in any sexual way"
Yes my bad, these fantasy characters of yours are 18 they just look like cute children. It's an art style, definitely not a legal way for you to bypass the law which prohibits people from possessing child porn. I don't give a damn what you do in the privacy of your own home ctrct, but I do care about putting my mind at ease, I believe they call it venting. The internet is great for that. If I see any person I have reason to believe is innocent or at risk of being seduced by trannies, pedophiles, muslims or even the rapping kind I'll warn them, what you gonna do about it, call me racist, I don't care about your buzz words dumbass. Take comfort knowing that you're not alone, you'll have company in HELL!
> It's an art style
yes
>definitely not a legal way for you to bypass the law which prohibits people from possessing child porn
not for "me" since I'm not interested in that, but if my art is used by Someone to release built up tension instead of Someone looking up real kids or even worse - interacting with them with ill intentions then, yeah sure, I think I'm doing more good for society than any of you intolerant conceited sickos that want to take away human rights from all those with a certain trait you consider dangerous or "wrong".
> If I see any person I have reason to believe is innocent or at risk of being seduced by trannies, pedophiles, muslims or even the rapping kind I'll warn them
i can only imagine how the algorithm in your head works, that decides which person is "innocent" and which isn't. It's surely not related to gender, age or race/skincolor.
>you'll have company in HELL!
yes I'll have company in a fictional place. I hope they'll be 2d succubus lolis.
I am not a "loli" artist. My name derives from "loligator".
carry on
You've still not figured out how to distinguish between an innocent person and someone like yourself, enjoy.
RACE
It's a misconception that people are born identical in regards to being able to perform as well at intellectual or physical tasks. History covers genetics, when Europe and Asia wrote epic litterature, created amazing art and architecture Africans lived in mud huts. It might be worthy to note that it takes about 50 generations for a pack of wild foxes to start acting like dogs when bred in captivity.
"The fact that in fifty generations, they were wagging their tails and barking, this is really incredible."
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160912-a-soviet-scientist-created-the-only-tame-foxes-in-the-world
They tried to illiminate defensive reactions to humans in the foxes, that's a trait that was artifically selected for. Not necessarily something foxes naturally are attracted to, they would probably prefer an aggressive wild fox to a docile peaceful fox. If we assume behavioural changes can happen as quickly to humans, about a 1000 years for a human to turn from a wild human into a domesticated human who barks then it's no longer a mystery why certain isolated groups of people behave differently to others.
Take for example the black man, for thousands of years the sahara desert cut him off from other groups of people. When harsh weather forced europeans and asians to build cold proof houses and prepare for winter by spending most of the year tending to crops. The black man just had to run after an animal and a hut made of straw and mud was all the protection he needed from the scorching sun. Hunting also didn't allow him to do much else, while farmers were able to spend a significant portion of the year developing culture. People also figured out farming is much easier if you live in larger communities, towns. The towns started to trade with each other, professions started to develop.
Africans lived in small tribes, I don't even think they developed strong families, the tribe raised the child. That might be why it's quite popular for modern blacks to join gangs and not stay home around the dinner table with mommy and daddy. Certain traits that we value in modern society weren't selected for. Same with the middle easternes, another large group of people with undesirable traits. About 3000 years ago in ancient Babylon they were a great people, but they fell from grace and then someone invented Islam and they started to marry their cousins and the rest is history.
Genetics is just one factor in determining what a person is like, you can't dismiss a person just on their genetics, especially not today when so many people are of mixed heritage. But in the context of innocence you could probably say that it wouldn't be as important to warn a little muslim child of talking to achmed over skype as it would be to warn a little white or asian child. I'll go as far as to say that it's probably not a great idea for it to become the norm in western society for people to have tons of babies with blacks and muslims. Call it whatever you want, I prefer to refer to it as evolution and not racism.
GENDER
Gender matters a lot, the female body is designed to give birth to babies. In order to do that she needs to choose a man therefore she should be encouraged to obsess over men, good men. A whore or a woman who chooses to give up on her responsabilities as a woman are generally not very attractive that is why she resorts to being a whore in the first place, or she just gives up and starts hating men. But even a whore as unattractive as she tends to be is still trying to perform her function as a woman.
Now the male equivalent to a whore is much worse. Men can't give birth to babies, so they tend to have an obsession, a need to create things. Intelligent men who aren't given means by which they can create things tend to be easily distracted by escapism, they want to escape the miserable conditions that won't allow them to express themselves creatively. The escapism usually takes the form of some kind of game and if he wins at the game he feels better about himself despite not fulfilling his duties as a man. An alternative to games are drugs, get high or drunk and put the person who keeps on telling you that you're a loser to sleep. Out of the two games are definitely preferable, because games especially in a modern context can teach us something about ourselves.
They can have storylines or make us become better at problem solving. Escapism that celebrates virtue or presents to us a great vision of the world or an archetype isn't time wasted, that's art. Great artists rise out of miserable enviroments to inspire people, the great tragedy is when society is so messed up that it fails to appreciate the ideals by which a society can flourish, the archetypes are very important. Instead a lot of people obsess over rap lyrics and manga, which is sad. Four hundred years ago when inspired men commissioned artists to create statues or depictions of scenes from the bible, that presented society with a nice vision of what we might become. We would never have seen those great masterpieces if the talented artists had to slave under the mob. It's impossible to ignore the fact that most great artists and authors were and are men. Women, men's urge to create is comparable to your urge to make babies and care for them. Don't be surprised if they beat you at it and don't waste your time trying to reverse things or "make things equal".
That is why modern feminism is bad, the new star wars movies for example. Stop trying to convince people women can kick ass and boss men around, I suppose you can boss weak minded men around but to present it as some kind of ideal is dumb. It gives young girls false expectations and it's not inspiring to young men who needs the escapism more than you do. The Quentin Tarantino movies are horrible, as is most of the crap you people obsess about. Also to elaborate a bit on race. It's cruel to try to force blacks or other groups of people to perform as well at whatever, just because you need to present yourself as a nice non racist. Let things play out, stop trying to micro manage society from above, if changes are meant to happen they'll have to happen from bottom up. No need to write legislation to enforce "equality", at the expense of the quality of your employees.
Now the most despicable man is the pervert, he isn't playing some game or dreaming of getting an opportunity to create something of value. He is basically weaving his fantasies and energy into his orgasms, all his creative energy is spent on trying to imagine scenarios in which he can dominate the women who prevent him from expressing himself creatively. It's not a game to be won, it's not healthy escapsim, it's a drug. An addiction that can take many forms, usually he obsesses about things of which he is deprived. Now a small dose of this drug is not something to shame a man for but when it becomes an obsession and he gives up on all his responsabilities as a man, then he becomes far worse than the worst female whore. I suppose you could compare a male pervert of the worst degree to a female who hates great men for being great or "privilaged".
While all kinks to an extent are bad, there are some that are worse than others. Pedophilia, an attraction to children is definitely the worst, it's hard to imagine a man that's worse than a pedophile. Then we've got the sadist or the masochist, men who likes to whip people or be whipped or dominated or whatever. This is bad because it's possible for people to get hurt under such conditions. Other perversions as unappealing as they might be are not as bad, do whatever you want as long as it's not in public or an obsession. It's evident from all these facts that it's more important to warn women of bad men of which there are many, but yes even a young boy should refrain from talking to Achmed or some tranny. The man hating witches don't seem to be as common as the perverted men.
Children are more open to being manipulated or confused by sick people. You'll find few adult women who would want to hook up with a muslim or a tranny on skype, but the naive little girl don't know better. Which is why it's important to warn them. You're clearly attracted to very young looking girls cntrct and it seems to me that it's a bit of an obsession, you either lack the brains or the means by which to create something of value, now instead of whining about it and call me a racist or a pedophobe erase the nasty drawings from your gallery and try better yourself. Also Pit, you've drawn over a thousand pictures of yourself as a girl. You're gay so you can't really help it but jeez, get a better hobby and lastly emberclaw, try find a nicer boy to chat to.
Phew...
So whatever form of art is made, it can exist just on that basis alone...as art....not necessarily serving a purpose...not representing any particular belief or ANYTHING....just the arrangement of pixels on a screen...That's all.
I sometimes draw objects that I know will attract interaction...like toilets...because I know people will draw poop in the bowl or do something to actively interact with it....which I usually like to see/watch. Sure, it's a cheap and obvious trick...but so what? I'm bored at work and I'll take a cheap laugh anytime.
That is one of the attractive aspects to this public drawing realm...to see how people will react in real-time.
Some artists will spend hours and hours working out a realistic figure and no one will ever interact with them...but this IS a public drawing room so it strikes me as ironic that someone would come to a public room to draw with other people and yet exclude themselves from those very people at the same time. Like cats...They act like they want you to pet them and when you pet them they scratch the fuck out of your hand! Public drawing room...but stay away and don't bug me?! -doesn't make sense!
Haug, you kinda exclude yourself to private rooms and yet you seem to want to interact with others at the same time -like in here...but not so much to draw...more to preach...And I think you know that what you say will elicit responses in much the same way that drawing a toilet does for me....Basically we're all doing the same thing to each other....but different styles....be it drawing naked elf-children (AKA "lolies")...toilets....renaissance statues or preaching on a soapbox in here....whatever. The diversity is what makes it fun.
This comment section literally makes my brain itch.
Just draw lol
Should publish.
Segregation is beautiful, borders are beautiful, rooms with good moderation are beautiful. Your naive faith in the absolute equality of individuals is going to be your own undoing. The only way for you to extinguish the great fiery flame that resides within every great man and woman is to kill them, but even if your rapping hordes manage to do that our ideas are going to live on in our art. And we'll die knowing that you're going to be condemned to live a life without good company, misery loves company, what you gonna do when everyone's like you, fucker.